What’s up, Hypers? It has begun! Another episode of Underground Hype and the conversation is getting heated. This week is we bring to you the fire you need to get your gaming fix. Episode 40, we bring back the Ambassador DJ Krome,Baron, Khalid, Terence, Keem J and OG. As usual the crew got together to talk about the games industry like no other cast can. Here’s what we talked about:
Plus a ton more so, as usual, make sure you press that play button with the utmost haste, and prepare to be blown away. Subscribe on iTunes, review, tell your baby mama and thanks for listening!
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February 1, 2010 at 5:27 PM
damn a UH err week? Arbor Sensei(Quote)
February 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM
sometimes i dont even listen to the whole podcast. but you guys do work and i respect that. mikemadden(Quote)
February 1, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Okay just found out Sony will be marketing GOW3 in a few Nascar events,that’s exposure…millions of people watch Nascar and I can almost guarantee you that more people will watch Nascar then go to 7/11 in fact they should’ve had the cups at the Nascar events where they give out the cups for free or if anyone buys a drink but a large decal of kratos on a car is good enough considering its a big event Breezy(Quote)
February 1, 2010 at 8:59 PM
DJ Krome = The worst DJ ever Khld(Quote)
February 1, 2010 at 9:22 PM
lol Adrian Pottinger(Quote)
February 1, 2010 at 10:06 PM
good podcast bots. mikemadden(Quote)
February 2, 2010 at 12:52 PM
LoOL, this podcast is jokes. FuryRX(Quote)
February 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM
7alaeeeedd!!!! Lambo(Quote)
February 3, 2010 at 6:40 AM
Hey Lambo! What’s good? Aint seen you around here for a while. Kaifak? Khld(Quote)
February 2, 2010 at 8:58 PM
7-Eleven is so official. Twon(Quote)
February 3, 2010 at 12:53 AM
this was i a hot show great topics and discussions funny ass shit and good to have O.G and keem back tarantula45(Quote)
February 3, 2010 at 10:19 AM
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February 4, 2010 at 12:37 AM
@Terrance
God of War 3 will NOT be the 2nd best selling game on the PS3: MW2, MW1, COD:W@W, COD:NEXT 2010, GTA4, FF13, and there could be more. GoW3 wont hit 1million 1st month.
Marketing,
Uncharted 2 was marketed through the roof, SONY gave everyone Uncharted 1 to everyone that purchased a new PS3 for almost a year. If Uncharted 2 cant sell on its own after that the game is overrated as I know it is.
SONY wont push a game if it isn’t going to get its return on investment. You guys want SONY to market everything, you cant throw away money like that.
Here is the facts as I see it: people think it is the year of the PS3 yet again; MAG-nothing: White Knight Chronicles- nothing: Heavy Rain- nothing! And everyone will say people are stupid for not buying these games, no, those games do nothing for the consumer, period! otherZinc(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 2:31 AM
I don’t think the game is overrated, just vastly undersold. It’s a great game, but unfortunately it’s not Call of Duty, Madden, Guitar Hero, GTA, or whatever other wildly popular games there are out there. Quentyn Kennemer(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 2:32 AM
btw those are very good games. Im not gonna say people are gonna be stupid for not buying them, but to not at least give them a chance? Or to outright say they’re crap and not worth the money? Come on, even you have to admit that’s a bit ridiculous. Quentyn Kennemer(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 4:01 AM
@Zinc
I said GoW 3 will be the 2nd biggest EXCLUSIVE for sony, not overall game, you need to listen to what I say dude.
How can you say that games like Uncharted, Heavy Rain are not what gamers want. A game like U2 has set the standards for action games, every action adventure game that now comes out will be compared to it, in the same way most action fighting games are compared to GoW.
Heavy Rain is a game that I feel is a breath of fresh air in the industry. It gets a bit tiring playing the same types of games year after year..example all FPS game are just re-skins of each other, this year alone we have already had bayonetta, darksiders, dantes, and soon GoW all the same type of game. I am a fanboy of games so I respect what Heavy Rain is bring to the gaming industry.
MAG is a game that you need to play to understand, the game is the 1st of its kind on a console so its not perfect, but it is a great start.
So Zinc, I would say to you stop being a sheep dude, cause when it comes to gaming its about the games, so stop bring up CoD and Halo, cause every week thats your ammo..you respond to me with
“God of War 3 will NOT be the 2nd best selling game on the PS3: MW2, MW1, COD:W@W, COD:NEXT 2010, GTA4, FF13, and there could be more. GoW3 wont hit 1million 1st month.”
lets play count the CoD games…dude play games, if an xbot like krome can own and enjoy a PS3 so can you.
nuff respect to you Zinc. Terence Daniels(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 7:18 AM
I think what zinc is saying is, how are consumers going to play a game they don’t know about. I have a friend who is a hardcore gamer but only plays Call of Duty and Need for Speeds. He doesn’t go to gaming sites, or read gaming magazines, so how is he going to know about sleeper games like White Knight Chronicles or Heavy Rain? Word of mouth can only do so much, Sony needs to spend money on marketing to make money from games. Young money! Krome(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM
@Terrance,
I’m going to listen to the podcast again, not to show you up but because the podcast is that good. If you say GoW3 will be the 2nd best selling “exclusive” on the PS3, that isnt saying much.
For the record, I’ve played every important game since 1976, videogames, the gym, & basketball leagues are my hobbies. I absolutely play everything important, however, I will not play WKC, cant stand RPG’s. A site had a video review of WKC & it confirmed my hatred for JRPG’s. However, I do have respect for the millions of people playing the great ones like FF, its just not for me & I’ll never talk about them because I dont know that much about them. But one day I may not have “anything” to do in the world: NOTHING, then I’ll give a JRPG another try.
Also, I dont like MW2 because of the omission of co-op campaign, it should be a part of the experience not spec ops.
I dont mind people loving games at all, however, when comparisons are made against a game with consistent superior sales numbers, maybe that PS3 game isn’t better than the 360 game people are trying to downgrade. “Example” Baron said PS3 games are doing things never seen before? What? What are these things they’re doing?: Uncharted 2- linear, jack of many trades & master of nothing; the stealth in Uncharted 2 was weak, very weak & no where near as spectacular as the Splinter Cell games on the regular XBOX. People will say: Uncharted 2 isn’t made for stealth, well dont tell me how great it is.
Also, the graphics dont look as good as Mass Effect 2, cutscene or not, look at your girl in Uncharted 2 then look at Miranda in Mass Effect 2.
MAG: its $60 & you can only play online? Where are all the haters hatin on Halo 3:ODST? at least I can play it by myself.
Heavy Rain: is Dragons Lair, not Shenmue, (not saying you or the podcast made the comparison, but many others wrongly made those comparisons, I’d rather comment about that comparison on this site or 2 other sites I frequent because you guys & the others I like like that (nohomo) & would rather give you guys the traffic)
@Fresco,
Almost right in my assessment of my comments, but, why is it that “no” PS3 game can be a whopper seller like Gears, Mass Effect, Halo, Fable, I mean it is always the year of the PS3 & at the end of the month Infamous, Killazone 2, Uncharted 2, MAG, Ratchet & Clank never show up on the million sellers list & completely drop dead the following month. They never have anything to show for all this idle chatter I read & hear leading up to launch. Sometimes games have to stand on their own to make a name for themselves.
Halo:Combat Evolved made a name for itself on word of mouth & zero marketing to become the smash hit it is today, if Bungie can do it, why do these other games need major advertising out of the gate. And, I’m not saying a game shouldn’t have advertising but a company cant break the bank on an unproven property, the property needs to prove its worthy of the advertising muscle as Halo did.
Terrific podcast, I’m about to play some Mass Effect 2. I’m a level 25, haven’t entered the big fight, I’m building up my weaponry, & on my 53hour of play. otherZinc(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM
hi i like ps3 more than xbox So_Fly_Sxc-Mabzillious_May(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM
@ Zinc
That’s your opinion and I respect it, but you can’t say what Heavy Rain plays like if you have not played it.
And come on, you can’t compare Mass Effect 2 with Uncharted 2, both different games, both great games, and each game has its flaws, just like every other game.
I also 100% agree with you comment on Halo coming from the bottom to the top, but you have to remember Halo came about during a time when it was all about Jap games, so everybody welcomed Halo, now everybody is trying to copy it.
Thanks for listening to the podcast dude, and commenting..I respect that, and everybody else who listens and comments Terence Daniels(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Other zinc dude you are a fucking retard please just stop posting on these sites please just stop every one is tired of your nonsense. I don’t play rpg’s but your playing mass effect 2 WTF. I don’t fucking get why xbots love to talk sales it’s funny how they always leave the nintendo wii out of the picture. Bucnasty(Quote)
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February 4, 2010 at 8:32 PM
lol we’re not because we aren’t on the site he comments on. @Zinc, you’re welcome here anytime to share your opinion even if it’s seen as fanboyism.
@Bucnasty, sales = numbers = facts. A game’s success in this industry is not by it’s development costs but how much it sales in the end of the day. Everything else we perceive is subjective, so the strongest argument you can present is that of sales. Khld(Quote)
February 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM
if sales= numbers and numbers=FACT then review scores are FACT????????? mikemadden(Quote)
February 6, 2010 at 10:30 AM
What? No, because reviews are opinions. Khld(Quote)
February 6, 2010 at 10:32 PM
and its people opinion to buy games. i dont understand how sales are fact. if a game sales 5 million copies do that mean 5 million people liked the game? no. the only reason i think people use sales talk is the the lack of great exclusive for their favorite console. mikemadden(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM
@buc,
I’m a gamer with a double major in business administration & marketing with a minor in economics, so excuse the retard comments. I also said “JRPG’S”, however, I respect peoples opinions, its just not for me. Also, I dont count the Wii as I dont count PC’s, different markets. Nintendo deserves credit for discovering the soccer mom, old people, little kid market that SONY & M$ are attempting to get a piece of. However EA, UBI, & others are wasting their time trying to make a real game for the system, if Mario, Fit, or Guitar aren’t involved, “Fail” will immediately follow!
If you dont like my comments, dont read them! Empty barrels like yourself can only insult, I always give reasons or examples for the comments I make, where are yours? Everything I said about marketing & advertising is 100% accurate, maybe you should read a business policy book, it will tell you the same things!
@Terrance,
Back in the 80’s there was a game called Dragons Lair, its the same as Heavy Rain. Heavy Rain may allow you to walk around a little more but the action is all qte. Every video I’ve seen suggest this is the case, I’ll definitely play the game week 1 of release with an open mind, but my prediction still stands.
As far as me listening to Hype podcasts, please, I’m a loyal listener. If I miss a comment section of a Hype podcast, I’m out of town on business. Keep up the good work, peace. otherZinc(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 11:05 PM
@otherzinc
you should apply to become a xbot ambassador tarantula45(Quote)
February 4, 2010 at 11:11 PM
oh and i think mass effect 2 is going to be goty but other than the faces the graphics are pretty standard imo but graphics dont matter right tarantula45(Quote)
February 5, 2010 at 12:11 AM
@tarantula45
Graphics play a role but it isn’t the deciding factor in my book, however, PS3 people think the PS3 has this generation widening appearance that is a hidden illusion behind the linearity & featureless production of the games in question: Killzone 2, looks great, however, No co-op through missions, no 4 player co-op, & restricted vehicle features in the game. Uncharted 2, linear as hell, one way to do things, copied of many games, mastered nothing, & a digression of stealth: see Splinter Cell on the regular XBOX.
I’ll take being an XBOX Ambassador, most of the podcasts I listen to have their fair share of PS3 Politicians, so I’d at least give a voice or word for the other side.
Tarantula45, get off these message boards & increase the Level of your character in Mass Effect 2, its a little low. You need to stop the Collectors, stop wasting time. Go! Hurry Sheppard! otherZinc(Quote)
February 5, 2010 at 4:53 AM
@ otherzinc Why the fuck do you think linear games are bad half the games you play are linear. That’s why you are a fucking idiot with nothing better to do but post in these sites. U are a loser my friend a loser great sales doesn’t mean it is the best game ever made if so wii play is the shit wii fit is the best game ever created than the wii is the best console ever created. All three systems are competing you fucking moron. Yes a sale is a fact but it doesn’t mean that it is better than another game dude. Bucnasty(Quote)
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February 5, 2010 at 7:52 AM
@buc,
Not your friend.
2nd, Wii fit is the best game to the demographic Nintendo has created. Look up demographic & tell me what it means so you’ll be on a certain level of competence so you’ll understand competition.
No, most of the games I play are not linear, another word you need to look up, then you’ll understand what I’m talking about. Try & read articles on Uncharted 2, if you comprehend on a juvenile level, you will understand just how linear Uncharted 2 is. It makes no sense for an adventure game made in 2009 to be so linear, as I’ve said before Uncharted 2 should be called Charted 2.
In theory all consoles are competing, yes, however, the reality is they’re seeking different markets. No one on this board will have a Wii as their only console, no one, we would have a PS3 or 360, the Wii is secondary to us. This is why EA, UBI, and others that try hardcore games on the Wii dont work. COD wont sell on the Wii, yet its the #1 selling game of 2009, different demographic within the same market. Do you understand.
As far as sales go, it is an indicator the greatness of a product, especially when it comes to sequels. Uncharted 1, Halo 1, Gears 1, XBOX 1, Resistance 1, McDonald’s Cheeseburger. All products are tests of their prospective target markets, if they have repeat buyers in large numbers, its a success. Consumers can be tricked with the first iteration of a series, but a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 5th iteration as with the Halo Series & COD Series, No, the games are Amazing, period! & I’m not a COD fan but I will buy the game for my son & to beat the single player myself & I give respect to the millions that play it weekly, it just isn’t going to get my playtime ever again. Learn something! otherZinc(Quote)
February 5, 2010 at 12:23 PM
@zinc lol im to busy trying to bed jack to worry about the collectors
you should save time buy using copy and paste all your comments tarantula-45(Quote)
February 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Yeah, I finally hooked up with Miranda, & I’ll think about that copy & paste. I do say the same things over & over because people dont read what I say before they slam me on the keyboards.
About to play more ME2, so I can play Bioshock 2 Tuesday morning! otherZinc(Quote)
February 5, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Dude u are a idiot plan and simple Bucnasty(Quote)
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February 5, 2010 at 5:25 PM
@tarantula45,
Just hooked up with Jack! She left me in tears, it was great! I hope Miranda doesn’t find out.
Yeah, thanks buc. otherZinc(Quote)
February 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM
But score is a number right and ain’t numbers fact Bucnasty(Quote)
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February 6, 2010 at 10:33 PM
you are 100% right mikemadden(Quote)
February 7, 2010 at 12:40 AM
You’re not understanding what I mean. However, if you cannot go by numbers (collected data of sales) then there’s really nothing you can argue. Arguing opinions is futile at the end of the day as nothing gets resolved. Arguing subjectively is just a means of insecurity in my opinion. Khld(Quote)
February 7, 2010 at 9:02 AM
@Khld,
Perfect post, that is exactly correct!
For Hype 42, I hope you guys discuss the Heavy Rain demo, cant wait to hear what you guys think. We played it a few times last night. otherZinc(Quote)
February 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM
Khalid tries lol. Yeah I’ll be sure to get us to speak on that. Gotta download it now. I also will talk about my GOW3 impressions from the demo. Khld(Quote)
February 7, 2010 at 3:15 PM
@Tarantula45,
I just hooked up with Tali! otherZinc(Quote)
February 7, 2010 at 11:04 PM
booo. I wonder if I can hook up with Samara. I’ve been trying that but it aint working. Tali and Jack are a no no. I’m pretty much there with Miranda anyways. Khld(Quote)
February 7, 2010 at 11:09 PM
@Khld,
Samara turned me down & made me feel stupid! But I’m going to try again. I’m a level 30 & about to run it back on Insanity, Bioshock 2 may get in the way a little. otherZinc(Quote)