What’s up, Hypers? We’re back from rehab with another episode of Underground Hype and this week we recording live after dealing with our addictions. Episode 46, we bring back the educated gentleman DJ Krome,Baron, Khalid, Terence, Victor, Spenny and Tweazzy. We also have OG on the boards. The crew got together to talk about the games industry and how we plan to save the world from total destruction.
Plus a ton more so, as usual, make sure you press that play button with the utmost haste, and prepare to be blown away. Subscribe on iTunes, review, tell your baby mama and thanks for listening!
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March 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM
Yeah! otherZinc(Quote)
March 10, 2010 at 11:04 AM
to me G.O.T.Y is saying this was the best game i played all year and killzone 2 was MY 2009 G.O.T.Y. in 2010 it is heavy rain.
krome is full of shit about trophies. it takes 2 seconds to find your trophy. and if you want to see your latest trophies just go to your profile name.
i got to go to class i’ll download latter. mikemadden(Quote)
March 10, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Same. That’s why I said Street Fighter 4 was my Game of the year. This episode was great to be a part of. Khalid(Quote)
March 11, 2010 at 9:40 AM
@Terrance,
On game of the year & there are many games made every year. However, some of those games are horrible on all accounts & shouldn’t be considered for game of the year. In 2009 there were games omitted from the selection of GOTY. My game of the year was Assassins Creed 2 & Halo 3:ODST. otherZinc(Quote)
March 11, 2010 at 9:42 AM
@Krome,
Activision is completely wrong, big business will cut the throat of a big money earning employee all day. The same thing happened to me 2 years out of college, I tried to sue but the company was one of the largest companies in Illinois. They didn’t want to pay us our projected commission. otherZinc(Quote)
March 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM
@Khalid,
What did I not respond to from you, I apologize for missing it, I always try to respond to questions or debates given to me.
@Terrance,
Yes, I will be good with co-op from Laura, however, she doesn’t need it, I’ll have 2 copies of the game if its as good as Tomb Raider 1 & 2. Also, thanks for looking out for my/public co-op needs! otherZinc(Quote)
March 11, 2010 at 10:11 PM
@Baron & Tweazy,
Checkout those Splinter Cell:Conviction co-op videos! Also, the Socom 4 co-opness.
@ Information,
Heavy Rain luckily made the top 10. Lets see if they can make the top 10 in the March NPD’s? I have the answer!
360,
outsold the Wii. otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 12:59 AM
Yes, those games give you a true cooperative experience. Games that just add on the ability for another player to play does not. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 12, 2010 at 6:52 AM
@Khalid,
I saw it, I’ll check my mail more often. otherZinc(Quote)
March 12, 2010 at 2:31 PM
“so when the NPDs come out and heavy rain only do 200k dont be too quick to brag.”-mikemadden
@otherzinc
I TOLD YOU SO. that “POS” game is doing wel for a new ip. mikemadden(Quote)
March 12, 2010 at 4:55 PM
I heard heavy rain wasnt gonna make the npd list at all. Now dat its made it, its it wnt make it nxt month. Congratz to the wii finally dropn down the list. Ps2 still selln 100k wtf Arbor Sensei(Quote)
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March 12, 2010 at 4:57 PM
Ps2=FTW Arbor Sensei(Quote)
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March 12, 2010 at 10:23 PM
fully agree with kromes feelings on bc2 im loving it over mw2 but will be back
on mw2 in full force when dlc drops,but bc2 server issues are fucked they
need to get that fix fast
oh man am i pumed for gow3 from what ive seen sony santa monica has risen the bar big style tarantula45(Quote)
March 12, 2010 at 11:52 PM
@mikemadden,
You’re kidding right? New IP’s:
Bioshock
Assassins Creed
Mass Effect
Gears of War
Lost Planet
Left 4 Dead
All new IP’s & all sold much better than Heavy Rain. Alan Wake will be a new IP & I’m not sold on it at all yet. However, the screens & videos show a much more exciting style of play than the massively overrated Heavy Rain. Alan Wake may outsell Heavy Rains total to date in its 1st day at retail.
Heavy Rain gets no moral victory from me, its garbage & sold like trash. And where is MAG? otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 1:07 AM
Heavy Rain was not marketed even close to the point at which those games were. Just sayin’. . .
Also, those games are in a genre that appeal to most gamers. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 12, 2010 at 11:57 PM
@tarantula45,
I cant wait for Gow3 either, I’m not HipHop about it but will play it day 1.
@podcast crew,
Those are some hot@ss Snow Bunny’s! otherZinc(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 1:47 AM
@zinc im probably in the middle of tor-bot and hip-hype lol
and really we get it you hate games that are over hyped in your opinion but like i said nearly every game is over hyped these days just play the games u like and dont belive the hype until you play them for yourself regardless of what system you play them on
theres to many good games out there on all platforms for us to be wasting time bitching lets just play dude
and yes please to those hoe bunnys i mean snow bunnys tarantula45(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 10:34 AM
This dude just named a bunch of multiplat games hah wii fit says hello. idiot there u go talking about sales again otherzinc. You mam are the queen of the of the 360 fanboys. When in doubt say no game sold more than halo lol shit cracks me up man. Bucnasty(Quote)
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March 13, 2010 at 12:54 PM
@tarantula45,
I do play every game on PS3 & 360 that are important & what I deem to be fantastic or have potential greatness. I dont play the Wii because it isn’t marketed for me, when the Wii drops to $99 I’ll pick it up with Mario Kart & call it a day.
I answer comments on the 360’s side because to many people take unwarranted shots at the system like its some garbage & I cant take it. However, as much as I talk, I’ll always play games on any system: except the Wii, its for Soccer Moms.
@Bucnasty,
I cant wait for the March NPD’s to release so Gow3 could be on top so you can see how important sales are. Gow3 is the truth (not as HipHop truth but somewhere on the Hot level): Also, I’ve yet to see 1 commercial on Gow3 & its going to sell because its a great game!
I loved it when the PS3 was on fire with their new Slim b-ray player; I mean PS3. You hypocrites talk sooo much s***!, it was great! Now Halo:Reach is going to break the bank & you’re trippin again, whatever.
Sales matter & Heavy Rain will say bye bye to the NPD’s with its overrated, bad acting, terrible voice acting, linear game playing, bad Resident Evil 1 controlling, horrible facial expression not matching the situation, Ghost Recon 1 car graphics, illusion beautiful “loading Face” watchin, 8 hour short game length playin @ss.
Terrible sales “most of the times” reflect mediocrity AKA Heavy Rain! otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 12:55 AM
Sales matter & Heavy Rain will say bye bye to the NPD’s with its overrated, bad acting, terrible voice acting, linear game playing, bad Resident Evil 1 controlling, horrible facial expression not matching the situation, Ghost Recon 1 car graphics, illusion beautiful “loading Face” watchin, 8 hour short game length playin @ss.
He got all this from running through a demo with a bias viewpoint going in. That is definitely talent.
Anyways, Heavy Rain would be place in the underrated category actually. Just because you hear a title once does not mean it is overrated.
Linear =/= Good
GoW3 = Linear
Gow3 = Great? The fuck. . . Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM
@otherzinc
MAG is at the 13th spot. not bad for only online shooter. and i notice there wasn’t any xbox exclusives in the top 20. where are the exclusives otherzinc??? mikemadden(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 5:00 PM
@mikemadden,
Come on now, you’re slippin: Mass Effect 2 is experiencing its 2nd month in the top 10, at the #7 spot for February. January it was 2nd behind the #1 mascot Mario: great game also.
Its oite you missed that, you were just looking too far down the list where the PS3 exclusives are usually located. otherZinc(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 8:03 PM
Mass effect is on pc as well and I don’t give a flying fuck how much god of war 3 sales all I know is that I will have it day one playing it and loving it. Not worring about if it hit a million in sales. Like I said wii fit is the great game ever by your logic. And u kill me wit this linear bullshit talk dude a linear game is not bad if it is done well. Alan wake will be linear and also splinter cell Bucnasty(Quote)
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March 14, 2010 at 1:08 AM
Not worring about if it hit a million in sales.
Word. I am not getting a paycheck in the mail from these companies. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 10:01 PM
@bucnasty,
Alan Wake may be linear I dont know, none of us know, also, I’m not sold on Alan Wake. However, Splinter Cell:Conviction isn’t close to linear as there are multiple ways to enter a situation, Many. There are several ways to enter a building, several ways you can attack your objectives…………..Wait for it.
My problem with linearity, we’ve been there & done that! I expect progression with the power of these consoles today. If games are going to be linear, lets go back to side scrolling.
I’ll be playing Gow3 also, the game is legit.
And we’re talking “console exclusive”! The PC has more power than all consoles, also the graphics card cost more than a 360 or PS3, Different ballgame! otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 12:57 AM
Open world, we’ve been there and done that! So – is that bad as well? I mean, I expect progression with the power of the consoles these days. See where I am going with this? Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 10:15 AM
An open world allows you to explore a game the way you want, not the way others want you to. You make your on game within the game. Progression! otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Linear games allow indecisive, open-world cronies to actually have a goal in life. Progression!
Like I said before, open world games have been done already. It is played out. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Just like there are several ways to play in heavy rain Bucnasty(Quote)
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March 14, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Shh, he does not know that you nasty son of a buc. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 11:05 PM
Smh, you guys have the same exact argument every week Khalid(Quote)
March 13, 2010 at 11:43 PM
if mass effect is a “console exclusive” then i can say modern warfare 2 is a “sony blu-ray exclusive” and so is every other game. cause if you want to play on blu-ray you have to get a ps3. mikemadden(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 1:25 AM
@trill what you don rate all the games that come out on demos and what some people may say lol
@zinc i hate to tell you but other than planet hoping mass effect 2 is pretty linear when it come to the missions,each mission is pretty much a corridor you talk to someone they send you somewhere you kill people mission complete all this is done while taking a linear path to get to your objective but does that make it a bad game
FUUUCK NO easily a game of the year pick tarantula45(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Lol Nah T-Rant. I actually have my own brain that I use, and that logic in that fucktastic mind of mine tells me that judging a small part of a whole is feebleminded.
“This burger is not tasty. Therefore, everything in this restaurant is gross.” Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 10:13 AM
@Tarantula45,
You’ve just described almost every game made. What I mean by linear is, forcing you down a certain path, every game has an objective, its the variation of ways you have to complete the tasks set for you.
Mass Effect 2 cant be beaten in 8 hours. As you know, there are several consequences involved in your selections in ME2, that will change your experience in ME3 same for ME1 to ME3. Also, there is zero exploration in Heavy Rain, at least you can play Mass Effect damn near forever.
@Trill,
I do know there are different endings in Heavy Rain, once you beat the short game you know everything & can beat it in 5 hours. I’m on my second play-through of Mass Effect 2 & I’m at my 61st hour & haven’t started the help missions for my team, I’m on the first Collectors ship.
@Trill,
Also, did the games acting, facial expressions, everything I mentioned up top get any better in the final copy: No! From what I understand from others, the story even has major holes in it, at least no one can or has ever questioned the story in ME2. Also, I’ve yet to beat Heavy Rain & will only judge that on my opinion & not others, for obvious reasons.
But, I dont know & never judge a game on story because it’s totally subjective & ones opinion of a story isn’t up for question. However, the terribleness I mentioned above is concrete & an action within the game. otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 12:54 PM
No! From what I understand from others
That is all I needed to hear. Thank you, sir.
Wait. . .
will only judge that on my opinion & not others
Contradiction – yes.
Also, I would hope you would play more hours on a RPG than a interactive-movie game. That is not surprising. Once again, you are comparing two complete different games.
Example of what you are doing:
“In Street Fighter, I am able to combo my ass off for the victory. However, I throw in Super Mario Bros. and cannot do the same to my enemies. Therefore, SMB is utter trash.”
Don’t argue apples with oranges. You should have learned that your first year in college. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 1:24 PM
@Trill,
Whatever, you can pick what you like from a statement & make it what you want, republicans do it all day. Bottom line, Heavy Rain is a mediocre game that fanatics will hype through the roof, if you, they, like it good.
And, sales is the underlying fact of a successful product. You would’ve learned that in Principals or Retailing … my bad thats a 300 level Marketing course for a more advanced business major-er……try “Intro to Business 151″. otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 1:50 PM
You did say it, did you not? I could have quoted the whole paragraph and there would still be the same ass contradiction, but why waste space?
And, sales is the underlying fact of a successful product. You would’ve learned that in Principals or Retailing … my bad thats a 300 level Marketing course for a more advanced business major-er……try “Intro to Business 151″.
Where in my post did I say anything about sales? Where in my post did I say anything about Heavy Rain being successful? Seems as though- as a matter of fact, scratch that – you are rambling on about shit not pertaining to anything that was sad. Once again, here you are trying to boast about the easiest major to graduate with a four-year degree from an university. Let me let you in on a little secret, no one gives a shit. Try again. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 9:00 PM
@Trill,
Alright, enough with you. You brought up college in your last sentence, 2nd to last post. I dont have to use my resume to discuss video games. & if you think a Marketing Degree is easy, well whatever. You were the one making a clever attempt at insulting my intelligence, I never insult you guys.
Also, when I comment, I comment on the entire podcast, talking about everything, everything I say is in relation to another, you know, giving a complete answer with examples. I’ll never say a game is bad without giving a thorough reason why, from mechanics, to price, to the end consumer.
Also, the reason I brought up sales with Heavy Rain, is its the end result of a terrible product! That isn’t my opinion, thats an investors fact! otherZinc(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM
We all know that you don’t have to use your resume to discuss video games. The sad thing, though, is that you do just about every other post. My “attempt” was not clever at all; it was truth. Why argue apples with oranges? Shit is pointless.
The problem is that it was not a complete answer. In fact, unless you are answering a question you asked yourself in your own little word, you were answering nothing. Even if you were randomly commenting on the podcast, I pose the questions again: Where in the podcast did I say anything about sales? Where in the podcast did I say anything about Heavy Rain being successful? (Repeat last cycle)
Sales have no correlation to how good the game is. I do not know where you got confused about this down the line of your gaming career. As Buc says about every week, according to your silly logic, Wii Fit is basically flawless. That game rests on the peak of gaming. However, we know this is not true. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Also, if you do feel insulted, you are quite weak and need to get out more. Trill Cosby(Quote)
March 14, 2010 at 9:48 PM
This dude other zinc man there is something seriously wrong with you man think u need all your shots or something dude every week you come in here spreading nonsense. Everyweek dude just stop!!!! Bucnasty(Quote)
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March 15, 2010 at 12:09 AM
@zinc
i give up,im done
whatever trill says i second it, have no time to go back and fourth with fanboys on either side tarantula45(Quote)
March 15, 2010 at 7:02 AM
Wii Fit is a fantastic product for who its marketed for, it isn’t a traditional hardcore game, Nintendo is genius for creating an untapped market. I dont like it, but that Soccer Mom genre isn’t for me, yet, it now holds a permanent position in the industry.
@tarantula45,
Your late, in my book I’ve been done with fanboys on both sides. See, I’m tired of people & media touting AAA titles with zero facts. ex….Where do media types & individuals get this momentum from for the PS3 as most of the proclaimed exclusives makes an appearance at the top of the sales charts for any length of time what so ever.
So I’m going to speak out with the only statements that matter in every single industry in the Universe today, $’s! otherZinc(Quote)
March 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM
cosign Adrian Pottinger(Quote)
March 17, 2010 at 11:22 AM
krome are we slowing down on the pocast releases? Arbor Sensei(Quote)
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March 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM
cosign. mikemadden(Quote)
March 17, 2010 at 6:48 PM
Yeah, Fresco where’s podcast 47? otherZinc(Quote)
March 17, 2010 at 10:19 PM
yeah whats taking it soooo long? UrFrill(Quote)